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Kurt Vonnegut on Enjoyment versus Achievement

Posted on December 6, 2020December 6, 2020 by

I have not been able to find the original source for this quote from author Kurt Vonnegut, I’m afraid. But it speaks volumes to me as a eternal beginner at so many things.


When I was 15, I spent a month working on an archeological dig. I was talking to one of the archeologists one day during our lunch break and he asked those kinds of “getting to know you” questions you ask young people: Do you play sports? What’s your favorite subject? And I told him, no I don’t play any sports. I do theater, I’m in choir, I play the violin and piano, I used to take art classes.

And he went WOW. That’s amazing! And I said, “Oh no, but I’m not any good at ANY of them.”

And he said something then that I will never forget and which absolutely blew my mind because no one had ever said anything like it to me before: “I don’t think being good at things is the point of doing them. I think you’ve got all these wonderful experiences with different skills, and that all teaches you things and makes you an interesting person, no matter how well you do them.”

And that honestly changed my life. Because I went from a failure, someone who hadn’t been talented enough at anything to excel, to someone who did things because I enjoyed them. I had been raised in such an achievement-oriented environment, so inundated with the myth of Talent, that I thought it was only worth doing things if you could “Win” at them.

5 thoughts on “Kurt Vonnegut on Enjoyment versus Achievement”

  1. Drago Barbulov says:
    January 11, 2021 at 12:45 pm

    That’s an incomplete insight.
    You dont have to be a chef to cook a great meal..and..you dont have to be Chopin to enjoy playing your piano..
    Nevertheless…if you generalise his outlook you will achieve less than mediocrity..and..you will lose interest in all those things.. Because?…
    If you dont make constant improvements?… you are like an engine on idle..revving and burning gas..but not even committed and dedicated enough to drive around the neighbourhood..and?.. when you see other people achieving things?.. you’re going to feel like a piddler..
    You dont have to be great..that’s a given..not everyone has to be..but that’s not the point..
    Yet…

    If you never make great efforts
    You will never know failure..or success..and you will be lukewarm..and quite useless..

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    1. Katherine Aileen Lamirand says:
      April 29, 2022 at 12:18 pm

      Usefulness is not a complete way to judge a person.
      I’d just like to talk to someone who has idle stepbrother-like pursuits.

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    2. George Haskell says:
      July 4, 2023 at 2:21 am

      In other places Vonnegut talks about how his efforts sometimes resulted in achieving excellence.
      When children play they don’t do it because they are good at it, they do it for the joy of it. As we age we become aware of the judgement of others and cease to engage unless we believe we can excel. Vonnegut casts of these shackles of expectations and becomes a fuller human being. I’m sure sometimes he became committed to excel at something and sometimes not. still he grw as an individual

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  2. Christine Periard-Dabros says:
    December 1, 2024 at 3:42 pm

    Growing up, I had a perfectionist mother. When I got 98%, which happened a lot as it was the expectation, she would ask “where’s the 2%? ». Anything she taught me had to be perfection wether it was something as simple as folding laundry or ironing (household chores for girls), if you didn’t get right the first time, she would prefer doing it herself. Mastery is great if it is something you really enjoy and passionate about whether playing an instrument or any type of art but there is something to be said about being good at many things. I am now 63 and retired, I’ve raised 4 boys, worked full time in IT for 30 years an then owned a business for 5, I sew, crochet, play guitar and sketch and watercolour, I am not a master but improve all the time but I really enjoy all of it and believe that I achieve success in many domains of my life without the “expected perfection” of my mother.

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    1. admin says:
      December 13, 2024 at 4:10 am

      I love this! Thanks for sharing.

      Reply

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